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10:07 am: Lagomorphic Bunnifications


It is the season of silly travel once more. Which means, well, this sort of thing:




Now, I work in an office which is full of people who do silly travel all of the time, so I get to hear lots of jetlag anecdotes and rules-of-thumb; the idea that it takes about a day per hour of time difference to acclimatise, the idea that it's worst going East and best going West and so forth. One interesting suggestion was that, given a large enough time difference experienced in one lump, the body clock just goes 'waaah' and effectively reboots, rather than trying to adjust gradually. Of course there are all sorts of other factors, not least that experiencing a large time difference in one go generally involves having taken a very long and tiring journey. But the one experience I've had with large time differences (9 hours Westward) seemed to be in agreement with this notion.

I was going to systematically plot all my jetlag experiences on a totally non-scientific graph. In fact I sort of did[1].



But I've realised that I can't actually remember how long it took for most places I've been, unless they were in some way notable by being very bad or good. So if you want to add any data points [Edit: which I will plot in enticingly different colours], feel free to comment with your experiences!
DISCLAIMER: I'm counting only outward trips, no jetlag-reducing drugs were involved, everyone is a special snowflake, graph will be updated if I feel like it (but this requires ~3 commands and takes ~10 seconds).

[1] Yes, this does count as procrastination - I'm going to be working at the weekend so I figure I might as well get the procrastination in now.


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From:feanelwa
Date:June 25th, 2009 09:17 am (UTC)
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Japan, +8h: 0 days (summer)
US, -5h: 4 days (autumn)
Morocco, 0h: 0 days (autumn)
Zurich, 1h: 1 day (winter)
From:feanelwa
Date:June 25th, 2009 11:16 am (UTC)
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Awesome, I get an exponential decay curve. I must find some places to go that fill in the gaps.
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From:strongtrousers
Date:June 25th, 2009 09:29 am (UTC)
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That is unutterably wonderful.
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From:kerrypolka
Date:June 25th, 2009 09:34 am (UTC)
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US -8: 2 days
return: 2 days
US -5: 0 days
return: 1 day
EU -1: 0 days
EU +1: 1 day

Those are the ones I remember and are probably averages.
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From:emperor
Date:June 25th, 2009 09:50 am (UTC)
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I don't think I've kept notes before. It seems to take 2-3 days for me to get used to US time, typically. I'm off to the states for a short trip in a week, so I'll try and remember to think then.
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From:gnimmel
Date:June 25th, 2009 12:25 pm (UTC)
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This is rather hopeful :)
One of the upcoming trips is to China (Chris has a conference, I'm tagging along as an Accompanying Person) and it's a Japan-type time difference which I wasn't looking forward to, but it seems that all of the Japan-goers here have had minimal jetlag. So yay for that.
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From:caulkhead
Date:June 25th, 2009 09:51 pm (UTC)
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Um, sorry. I had jetlag going to Japan, but none at all coming back.

Oddly enough, none at all going to Hong Kong, but that included a ridiculous trip via Dubai and Bangkok that took 24 hours in all each way. Never again.

Also, you have made jetlag beautiful. That is remarkable.
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From:fluffymark
Date:June 25th, 2009 11:07 am (UTC)
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I don't recall ever getting jetlag flying anywhere in Europe, even to Moscow (0h,+1h,+2h,+3h).

Aside from that, flying East has for me been much better than flying West. Flying to Japan (+9h) took me one day to recover the first time, and two days the second time. Flying back from Japan it took me at least 5 days to recover. Flying onwards Eastwards around the world I had no jetlag.

Flying to Chicago (-6h) I was jetlagged for the whole two days I was there, recovering as soon as I got home.

Tomorrow I fly to New York, and then the next day to San Francisco - as I don't do flying West well, I'm expecting the worst!

I will look out for the Jetlag Monster and dream of large rabbits! :)
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From:fluffymark
Date:June 25th, 2009 12:01 pm (UTC)
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Forgot to mention - my own idea is that jetlag-badness depends on time of arrival, not length of time-shift, at least for long flights.

Flying at night and arriving somewhere at sunrise seems to reset my body clock. And my body gets rest during the nighttime flight even if I got no sleep. So jetlag is not bad then. Flying all day and landing in the evening is awful. Body has been stuck in a chair all day, and doesn't want to sleep, and it's all dark outside so there's nothing to reset the body clock to.

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From:gnimmel
Date:June 25th, 2009 12:17 pm (UTC)
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Hmmm, I tend not to be very rested by overnight flights, so that might be part of it. Whereas I generally feel better about daytime flights going West because it's just like staying up late, which is a lot easier than getting up early! However, from the results so far it looks as if I'm unusually awkward with regard to Eastbound travel.

For me I think there's a change of climate effect as well - I didn't acclimatise to Indian time at all at least in part because I was kept awake by the heat and humidity, so never established a routine of going to sleep at a given time and getting up at another time.
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From:gnimmel
Date:June 25th, 2009 12:19 pm (UTC)
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Oh, and enjoy your holiday! I have some +1,+8 and +2 coming up, so it'll be interesting to see how that goes.
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From:bluedevi
Date:June 25th, 2009 03:34 pm (UTC)
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I love this very very much. That is all.
From:ex_sunlight344
Date:June 26th, 2009 07:34 am (UTC)
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I am going to be useful and merely say BUNNIES! :D
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From:hairyears
Date:August 3rd, 2009 09:27 pm (UTC)
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How did I miss this post... I get jetlagged on the DLR from Stratford to Canary Wharf.

Which isn't as frivolous a reply as you think: my body clock defines a 'day' as 2PM 'til 2AM and resists all attempts at resetting. So 'normal' working hours are very jetlagged indeed, and transatlantic trips produced a bright-eyed and bushy-eared paragon of productivity.
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